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 Posted: Thu Sep 14th, 2006 03:14 am
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My Kenmore Elite front load dryer, 14 months old, does not work. the symptoms are as follows: I press any of the setting buttons - auto cycles such as "heavy duty" or manual cycles such as "timed dry". the panel lights up as normal with various settings such as heat setting, end-of-cycle buzzer, the default two digit time, etc. I can adjust the time up and down on the timed cycle option. I can change the other settings. When I press "start", the dryer beeps two or three times in rapid succession, and the two digit time display starts blinking. I cannot change any of the settings that I mentioned earlier. I can hit cancel, and all of the lights go off.

What is strange is this started when I tried to use the stationary rack to dry some shoes. It worked fine before that. I took out the rack, but the above symptoms remain.

Does anyone have an idea of what this problem is? I don't have my manual, and am a bit upset that the unit only lasted to just beyond the warranty.

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Ted

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the type number is DADT ELE 2406028 EL54

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Post the model number, might be able to pull up a tech sheet to run diagnostics,,,



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Or find the tech sheet inside of the unit, will have diagnostic tests and trouble shooting help...



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I believe the model number is 110.8586x with x being the color number. this is what is written on my manual, which I found. There is not much in the troubleshooting section anyhow. and the two digit code that is displayed is the cycle time that I can set before pressing "start". I checked the voltage to the unit -no problem.

Where do I find the tech sheet?

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Open the door and get me the complete model number and I might be able to find one for you, otherwise yours will be inside of the dryer..



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Found it.  unmarked.  the number on the interior is 110.85872400.  

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Made by Whirlpool, here is your tech sheet, use it to run some diagnostics...



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Pegi:

Thank you for the tech sheets.  I put the unit into diagnostic mode and though the display did not show the codes in the tech sheets, I was able to find an anomoly vs one of the diagnostic tests - the unit would not beep when the door was opened and closed, and the display would not change.  I pulled out the door switch just a little, and took off the top housing to get to the electronics.  I levered the control card up to verify the wiring was OK.  ohmed out the switch, and it seemed to work.  successfully reran the diagnostics with the switch hanging out, and was able to operate the dryer in the diagnostic mode.  I did not find anything broken.  I put the dryer back together, and we are using it now.  I can only guess the the switch or harness had an intermittant failure, or I cleared something unknowingly.  If it exhibits this behaviour again, I will be on the right track - maybe have to buy a replacement switch at some point.  Thanks for the help. 

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Cool, thanks for the up date, will help all with this same problem....:cool:



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for some reason,repair clinic parts searcher does not like that model number, on the door switch lookup

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Cannot access model numbers for Kenmore products anywhere besides the Sears site, even tho this was made by Whirlpool...once Sears buys their products from the vendors.....well....there you go....will see what I can find...



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Shows door switch # 8519323, put this into the part number box lower in this page and see what comes up..



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Part link for door switch: http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R=154&N=905694



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Thanks.
General wondering-
1. is a part like this exposed to the humidity of the dryer?or is it outside the "heated area" seems like the humidity would still get out and mess up the switch, less switch is sealed.
2. If a switch failure, odd after only 14 months? wonder if whirlpool has gone to rev 2 on the switch specs?

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... or kids slamming the door shut. :grr:



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KIDS DO laundry?
Most too lazy

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A few years later ...
The dryer completely died on me.  I posted in this forum, but in a different area, and did not see any responses. 

To date I have replaced the Machine Control Electronics. The dryer came back alive, but only sometimes.  I banged on the top of the dryer, and it lit up but beeps again, like it did originally. 

I entered diagnostics mode successfully, and here is what I observed:
-88 on the LED
-All lights on, except the lights above the End of Cycle button
-When door open, LED shows 5E and no change in lights
-Door closed, back to 88 and no change in lights
-Casual and Normal buttons control their lights. 
-Sometimes the MoreLess buttons would control the LED
-Auto Dry Level button does not control its lights
-Damp Dry Signal and Wrinkle Guard buttons sometimes control their lights
-No other buttons control their lights, except once the Pause/Cancel button did turn off the diagnostics mode.   Then the dryer would not light up again - completely dead front panel, even when I bang on it. 

Did I waste my money on a new card?  What should I check next or what should I Easter egg next?  The Console electronics? The ribbon cables?  How about the new Machine Control Electronics card.  It was packaged horribly.  I am surprised it did not show signs of damage from shipping (what is Sears thinking?). 


Symptom before I replaced the Electronics replacement:
I have no power to the front panel. I have the tech manual from the dryer, and also from this forum.

I verified power from the wall to the Machine Control Electronics (left hand side power circuit board). I ran through the troubleshooting tips and if the power to the Machine Control Electronics checks out, the manual recommends replacing that card.

I checked some other components, for example, the thermal fuse, which reads 0.00 ohms and the thermistor which reads about 9.23 ohms. P1-3 to P1-4 reads 0.00 ohms. These seem to be the desired values.

The dryer does not respond to entering the diagnostic mode, and does not respond to any of the manual cycle buttons. I also checked the ribbon cable from the Machine control electronics to the Console electronics - P3 and P4 - per Test #5 on Page 8. I could not get any readings between the pins when I press the buttons, per the table "Checking Functions of Buttons" at the top of page 8. I checked that the digital multimeter would read a short by testing on the same pins on the white ribbon cable as there are two test points for each pin. the multimeter checked out which makes sense since the two test points on the ribbon are the same piece of metal (about 1/2 inch from each other).

A few years ago, the dryer first exhibited a beeping noise, and while the front console would light up, the dryer sometimes would not turn on, and when it did, it would beep continuously during the run. This problem went away, and then about two months ago, returned but even worse.

dryer number 110.85872400

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