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I need help with this Bosch clothes washer model #WFM2201UC. The unit does not spin, and I

am looking for a service manual to help with diagnosing the problem. Thanks for your help, GG

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Bosch manuals are hard to get.

I don't have a manual for the WFMC2201UC

I have one for the WFMC3200 / WFMC6400


 manual sent

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could be as simple as cleaning the pump

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I checked the Bosch washer today and the symptom is a little different than I was told. The machine does spin,
but by the end of the cycle the clothes come out wet
(even though they have spun many times)?
I am leaning toward the control board as the problem, since everything seems to work O.K. except for spinning
enough or at proper speed.

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and how is the Pump ?

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Does it get up to high speed spin? Or just the fast tumble?

The manuals Reg sent you are the ones that even Bosch calls out for that model. Guess the differences are not significant enough to merit a whole new, expensive-to-produce manual.

EDIT: Added "not" to the last sentance. Changed the whole meaning!

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Thanks for the replies - I suspect the pump is O.K. because machine pumps water out fine - pulled the d/c line
out of the pipe and flow seems fine. Also checked for debris in the sump - it was clear.
The unit actually gets up to high speed spin for only a few minutes during a one hour cycle - otherwise it is turning much slower.
Note that whenever my three test towels came out wet - I set machine on high speed manual spin, and it worked fine.
The towels came out as you would expect.

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How's floor stability during spin? If the floor gives and the washer starts shaking during spin, it'll ramp down the spin speed.

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The machine is on the second floor, but it does a good job
whenever it spins (even at the 1000RPM). Smooth operation
on the flooring every time. Thanks for this idea, because I have seen front loaders at friends houses that shake
rattle and roll every time. GG

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Have you gone into service mode and activated spin mode? Any difference?

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Very good idea, except the Bosch manual that Reg sent me
is not for this machine. It is for two other model numbers,
and each one of them requires you to go through different
steps to go to service mode and for retreiving trouble codes?

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Samurai Appliance Repair Man wrote:
The manuals Reg sent you are the ones that even Bosch calls out for that model. Guess the differences are not significant enough to merit a whole new, expensive-to-produce manual.

The control panel on the 22 looks like the same panel as the 32. Use the procedure for the 32 starting on page 63 of the manual.

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many of the Bosch machines will store trouble codes in memory so you can retrieve them in service mode.

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Thanks for the info - will try the procedure starting on
page 63 of the manual and see what happens?
Many thanks for the responses, GG

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I checked the Bosch unit today and the trouble codes are
E:20 (spinning aborted due to unbalanced load)
d:08 (motor speed sensor failed)
d:10 (power limiter switch off)

Please note that when I am scrolling through the trouble
codes it jumps from E:24 to d:08, then it skips d:09, then
skips d:11 through d:18.

I ran the machine through all the tests, but the one that
did not turn out as manual stated was the "P:04" test.
The unit went through the test, but did not do the operations as stated in the manual. Unit did do the
50RPM and ended with the 1000RPM. Seemed as though the
unit just does the operations it wants to do.

Please, I would appreciate some help in interpreting the
results of these tests. I do not know where the speed sensor is located, but if it is on the motor control
board - I am still leaning towards this board?

Many thanks for your help,

GG

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gergrff wrote: ... I do not know where the speed sensor is located...
a PDF search of the Service Manual for "speed sensor" shows it on the Motor on PDF page 44

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Would someone that has experience with the Bosch machines
take a look at the results of my fault codes and testing
and give an educated opinion as to what direction I should
go with parts. This would be appreciated very much.

GG


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