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Alan Schietzsch Lurking at the Threshold
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Posted: Tue Nov 22nd, 2005 07:22 |
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We have a Frigidaire Gallery electric dryer, Model FSEC747GES1.
To get the drum to rotate, we have to give it a little push assist by hand, then quickly slam the door shut and hit the"start" knob. Then it operates perfectly...until it's time for the 2-way drum to rotate in the opposite direction. It will not re-start without a little push.
I first thought the drum was too stiff to turn, and that maybe the dryer was protecting itself from too high a current load to start. It now has new bearings, glides, and belt, thanks to your excellent instructions! And it does turn a bit more freely. 
But no luck, it still won't start without help, or keep running when it hits the "reverse" cycle.
Might it need a new motor? Or some electronics?
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Posted: Tue Nov 22nd, 2005 07:45 |
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| I wonder if this is the new-fangled reversing dryer made by Fisher-Paykel sold under the Frigidaire label. Are you downunder, mate?
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Posted: Tue Nov 22nd, 2005 20:35 |
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You may want to check the enercia switch on the motor, it may be stuck in the run position, which is like the second gear as apposed to the start position (1st gear)
you may also find that the heat is on even though the timer is in the off position, if this is so? this reafirms that the switch in the motor is stucked.
Good luck
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Alan Schietzsch Lurking at the Threshold
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Posted: Tue Nov 22nd, 2005 21:32 |
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No, I'm not from the south, other direction - I'm a Canuck, eh! 
So...it's not a Fisher-Paykel - we Canadians get the generic domestic Frigidaires, nothing exotic. The pictures of glides glued to the front panel on your website are exactly like mine, no differences I can see.
This one is Serial XD82165321, and is about 10 years old I believe.
Would that help identify it?
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Posted: Tue Nov 22nd, 2005 21:38 |
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Alan Schietzsch wrote: So...it's not a Fisher-Paykel - we Canadians get the generic domestic Frigidaires, nothing exotic. The pictures of glides glued to the front panel on your website are exactly like mine, no differences I can see.
If true, then this is not, cannot be a reversing dryer. What's all this about "two-way drum" and "rotate in the opposite direction?"
You probably have a motor that's seen better days and is on its way to the great appliance parts dump in the sky. 
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Posted: Wed Nov 23rd, 2005 12:10 |
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Sorry, But have to tell our Grand Master Samurai, you mistaken man!!!!
Frigidaire built one of their contraptions, the standard Frigidaire/Westinghouse style dryer but with special idler pulley and reversing circuit board.
Every remember seeing the idler pulley with two pulleys on it in the parts books, that's the one special Frigidaire deal.
Sounds like you have a motor going out or the reversing circuit board could be causing the problem.
The only one I've worked on was just like yours and had same kind of problem, thought I had found the problem with a overheated/burnt motor wiring coming off the reversing board, cleaned and repaired contacts and dryer worked fine for me.
Luckly this was for a friend and it started to do the same thing in no time at all, he just dumped the dryer and purchased a new one so I didn't have to beat my head over that problem again.
Here's the correct model# FSE747GES1, Alan had inserted and extra "C" in there causing it to be a bad model#.
If you've never seen one Samurai, here's the picture of the idler pulley motor setup CLICK HERE
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Posted: Wed Nov 23rd, 2005 22:18 |
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Well, like I always say: garbage in, garbage out. A valid model number at the outset would have saved a lot of wasted time and keystrokes. 
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Posted: Wed Nov 23rd, 2005 23:12 |
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Ran into those as well, got one brand new with no heat, harness wrongly wired from the Friggidaire factory!
O leader, you may be doing the humble grasshopper a disservice....possibly the extra 'C' as compared to what Willie found is for Canada?
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Posted: Thu Nov 24th, 2005 02:23 |
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Mad Mac wrote:
O leader, you may be doing the humble grasshopper a disservice....possibly the extra 'C' as compared to what Willie found is for Canada?
Good point, Maddest of the Mad. If this is the case, then apologies to our intrepid grasshopper, who so boldly ventured into this den of appliance repair debauchery.
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Posted: Thu Nov 24th, 2005 22:45 |
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Does your dryer have a capacitor? A lot of washers and dryers have a start capacitor for the motor, as it takes a lot more current to get them moving with a full load of clothes.
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Posted: Sun Nov 27th, 2005 21:47 |
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This dryer does have the double pulley, just like Willie's diagram shows. And the exterior states it's reversing, too.
I've double-checked the Model No., and it does have a "C" in it, so Mad Mac has got that one figured out - Frigidaire must add the letter "C" to designate Canadian models.
You folks are great - I appreciate everyone's feedback! Now I'm going to have a look at all the harnesses and such to see if there are any dirty/burnt bits....
And about this capacitor idea, Dan...if there's one in there, where would it live? Next to the motor someplace? What am I looking for?
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Posted: Sun Nov 27th, 2005 21:54 |
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| Oh, and one more question just occured to me - if I do find such a capacitor, is there any way to test it, or is it just a case of "replace it and see if it make any difference?"
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Posted: Mon Nov 28th, 2005 02:17 |
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| Put your ohm meter on X100 and out the leads on the terminals of the capacitor, then reverse the leads 2-3 times, the needle should go up and back down. If the needle does not move it is dead, if it goes to the right and stays there it is shorted.
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Posted: Mon Nov 28th, 2005 12:26 |
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| Personally, I can't remember ever seeing a capacitor on any dryers I've worked on, (but maybe used on the Canada models?)
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Posted: Mon Nov 28th, 2005 20:26 |
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| It may be a Canadian thing Willie, I've nevr seen a cap in a dryer around here.
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Posted: Tue May 9th, 2006 00:23 |
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| dans right. in australia our f&p dryers have caps, if its humming id say its it. just get any 440 volt 7 to 10 micro farad cap found in most washing machines, try this , its an easy cheap attempt. br djm
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Posted: Tue Jul 24th, 2007 17:17 |
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Sorry to revive this aged thread, but I have EXACTLY the same problem, on a model with exactly the same number (mit C) ... needs a little help to get it started after a reverse. Spin it fast enough, and you can slam the door and it just keeps on rolling ... too slow, and you try the start button to see if moving the drum has magically fixed the problem.
Truly, a pain.
Anyone confirm the solution? Find the capacitor? Suspect something else?
Any and all help appreciated.
Raoul Lifschitz
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Posted: Tue Jul 24th, 2007 18:32 |
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| Pay your $5.00 membership fee and repost your question...closing this thread...Pegi
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