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| Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 01:20 pm |
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finkaa Grasshopper
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I've read thru most of the Maytag agitator issues and found a diagram of the pulley system in this post -> http://applianceguru.com/forum2/14000.html When I turned my washer upside down, I noticed three large washers and the plastic splined device laying on the floor under the washer. I did not find a dust cap nor did I find a c-clip (broken or otherwise) that should be there holding the washers and plastic sleeve in place against the pulley. It makes no sense to me but that is my current reality. All the functions of my washer work fine except the agitator - it does not spin in either wash, rinse or spin cycle. The drum does not turn (automatically or manually), neither does the bottom part of the agitator. The middle section of the agitator turns counter-clockwise manually. The plastic sleeve that slides over the spline appears to have all of its teeth. Do you think my problem will be solved by simply finding a c-clip that fits over the spline to hold the plastic sleeve in place?? Also, is there a right way to re-install the plastic sleeve (it appears to be keyed but slides over the spline either way). Thanks!!
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| Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 02:10 pm |
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nickfixit Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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Get a new thrust bearing assembly, that way you know you'll have all the right parts, and the installation instructions.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 05:23 pm |
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finkaa Grasshopper
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Thanks for the help. I tried to find a "thrust bearing assembly" for my MAV6200AWW but I didn't see anything that looked like the pieces I picked up off the floor. Perhaps I'm going about the parts search in the wrong way. Could you be so kind to lead the blind to the right place please? Many thanks! Last edited on Sun Oct 4th, 2009 05:37 pm by finkaa ____________________ He who conquers himself is the mightiest of warriors |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 05:25 pm |
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kdog Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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RepairClinic part #1042142 Last edited on Sun Oct 4th, 2009 05:25 pm by kdog ____________________ Can Ye spare some 'cutter me brutha ? http://web.me.com/zenzoidman/kdog/ |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 06:18 pm |
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finkaa Grasshopper
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Awesome! Kit ordered - many thanks!!!
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| Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2009 06:47 pm |
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finkaa Grasshopper
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Kit arrived and I just installed it. I ran it through the spin cycle and the agitator spun with the drum which is what I assume its supposed to do. I added some water via the rinse cycle and then ran it thru the spin cycle again and it appeared to do what it was supposed to do. Before I broke open a beer to celebrate, I throw some jeans in and started a complete wash cycle. Water filled and the machine began its wash cycle and it sounded like crap - not even sure I could discribe it other than it certainly wasn't right. I ran the machine through the spin cycle to clear the water and I'm not sitting on my bum and scratching my head in disappointment. Any thoughts as to what I do from here?? Many thanks, Art
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| Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2009 07:20 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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YouTube video ? Maytag Atlantis III Service Manual
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| Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2009 07:27 pm |
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finkaa Grasshopper
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If you're asking me to post a YouTube video I'm afraid I can't do that without some assistance which isn't currently here, but happy to do so later tonight. I did go back to basement once I got my boss out of my ear via the corporate conference call and confirmed that the middle section of the agitator only spins in one direction freely - counter-clockwise, and the base of the agitator doesn't move at all. I put some water in the tub again and let it go into its wash cycle. The agitator moved back and forth but probably not as much as I would have expected it to. It sounded like it was rolling over flat bearings if that makes any sense to you. I'll empty the water and check my installation to make sure I have all the parts in the right place. If a video is required I'm assuming you'll want to see and hear the tub as it tries to wash. Correct? Anything else I can capture while I have the camera here? Thanks again...Art
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| Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2009 07:31 pm |
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finkaa Grasshopper
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BTW - the repair kit that was sent to me didn't have all the parts that are shown on page 22 of the Service manual you referenced. The parts above the drive pulley were replaced with 2 pieces: a metal piece which I assume probably has some bearings in them and a white plastic piece that slides onto it. The stuff below the pulley in the replacement kit matches the stuff in this diagram (ie 2 different size washers, lower cam, retaining clip, and dust cap). I assume this is a reflection of an improved process and not me getting the wrong repair kit. CHeers!
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10th, 2009 10:10 am |
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finkaa Grasshopper
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Learned how to move a video from a video camera to my pc, convert it from video ts to mpg and then upload it to YouTube - all while trying to learn how to fix my broken washing machine!!! Here's a video of my washing machine in action starting with the rinse cycle, then over to the spin cycle, and back to the problem area - the wash cycle after installing the thrust bearing kit. I only wound up using one of the thrust washers (I believe it was the thicker of the two) and while the Brake Disengagement section wasn't 100% clear to me, I THINK I got it right but I wouldn't bet on it. Again, I appreciate your help (as does my wife!). Thanks much, Art http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20acNyRO2YU
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10th, 2009 02:14 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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YouTube video not set to "public"
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10th, 2009 03:16 pm |
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finkaa Grasshopper
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It is now - sorry about that - another knowledge nugget in the brain bank!
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10th, 2009 04:27 pm |
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finkaa Grasshopper
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Went back and checked all my work from an Apprentice's eye, it looks good. I did noticed that I used the thinner cam washer vs the thicker one I reported above. I took the thin one off and tried to install the thicker one but I couldn't get the c-clip to lock in on the shaft even after pulling the shaft down as hard as I could (the locking groove for the c-clip in the shaft wasn't visible). So, I'm at a lost and hence the status of Apprentice! Cheers, Art
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2009 01:48 am |
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finkaa Grasshopper
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Any thoughts/suggestions here guys? I'm getting razzed by all the nay-sayers and want to prove them wrong before having to head to the laundry mat and eat some crow. Thanks!
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2009 03:47 am |
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kdog Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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Tip the machine back, remove belt and turn the large plastic pulley by hand (MACHINE UNPLUGGED OF COURSE), when you turn it one direction, it should drive the trans. and cause agitatot to move. When turned the other way, it should unlock brake and make the tub spin
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2009 05:12 pm |
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finkaa Grasshopper
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It does indeed - counterclockwise unlocks the brake and lets the tub spin, clockwise turns the agitator. However, when I turn it clockwise, it sounds as if its rolling on broken ball bearings instead of a smooth surface. I was hoping you could see this in the video I posted earlier of the washing cycle after I installed the thrust bearing assembly. Is it possible that I just need to install the thicker washer or ????? Last edited on Tue Oct 13th, 2009 05:31 pm by finkaa ____________________ He who conquers himself is the mightiest of warriors |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2009 05:40 pm |
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kdog Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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Does it sound like it's coming from inside the transmission??
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2009 05:47 pm |
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finkaa Grasshopper
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It sounds like its coming from the base of the agitator but then from the looks of the service manual, the tranny sits right under the agitator so it could very well be coming from there. If I turn the pulley real slow clockwise I think I can feel the gears get hung up just a bit. Any way of eliminating the transmission as the noise culprit? If it is the gears in the tranny, is that an expensive fix?? From the service manual, it appears that I have to purchase the entire transmission - right? As you can see in the video posted above, the agitator does move now but I'm not sure its moving as vigorous as it should be and there's certainly more noise than there should be too! Last edited on Tue Oct 13th, 2009 08:33 pm by finkaa ____________________ He who conquers himself is the mightiest of warriors |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2009 10:25 pm |
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kdog Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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Remove the agitator by removing the bolt in the centre, see what kind of play is in the shaft/ wear to the splines etc. Ig sound is from trans internals, it needs replacement Last edited on Tue Oct 13th, 2009 10:28 pm by kdog ____________________ Can Ye spare some 'cutter me brutha ? http://web.me.com/zenzoidman/kdog/ |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2009 01:51 am |
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finkaa Grasshopper
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Didn't seem to be very much play in the spline, a tiny bit side to side and a very small amount up. The grooves in the spline looked fairly decent too. I put it all back together again and ran it through wash, rinse, and spin cycles. The wash cycle is the only one that makes any noise and the noise comes from the agitator going back and forth. There isn't any noise when the agitator spins with the tub in spin cycle. Does that tell you any more? Thanks!
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