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| Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 01:58 pm |
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gergrff Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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I need help with this Bosch clothes washer model #WFM2201UC. The unit does not spin, and I am looking for a service manual to help with diagnosing the problem. Thanks for your help, GG
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30th, 2009 01:28 am |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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Bosch manuals are hard to get. I don't have a manual for the WFMC2201UC I have one for the WFMC3200 / WFMC6400 manual sent Last edited on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 01:12 pm by RegUS_PatOff ____________________ RegUS_PatOff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPAY2LsKVEw my video production: “Easter Seals Walk With Me” (also in HQ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EBiLyYXMiA Upon leaving this Earth "Do you want the Smoking or Non-Smoking section ?" |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30th, 2009 11:38 am |
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NCSU_laundry_tech Sublime Master of Appliantology
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could be as simple as cleaning the pump
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30th, 2009 11:22 pm |
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gergrff Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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I checked the Bosch washer today and the symptom is a little different than I was told. The machine does spin, but by the end of the cycle the clothes come out wet (even though they have spun many times)? I am leaning toward the control board as the problem, since everything seems to work O.K. except for spinning enough or at proper speed.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 03:39 am |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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and how is the Pump ?
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| Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 03:40 am |
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Samurai Appliance Repair Man Fermented Grand Master of Appliantology
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Does it get up to high speed spin? Or just the fast tumble? The manuals Reg sent you are the ones that even Bosch calls out for that model. Guess the differences are not significant enough to merit a whole new, expensive-to-produce manual. EDIT: Added "not" to the last sentance. Changed the whole meaning! Last edited on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 04:24 pm by Samurai Appliance Repair Man ____________________ Links: Parts | FAQs | Store | Beer | Home |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 05:12 am |
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gergrff Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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Thanks for the replies - I suspect the pump is O.K. because machine pumps water out fine - pulled the d/c line out of the pipe and flow seems fine. Also checked for debris in the sump - it was clear. The unit actually gets up to high speed spin for only a few minutes during a one hour cycle - otherwise it is turning much slower. Note that whenever my three test towels came out wet - I set machine on high speed manual spin, and it worked fine. The towels came out as you would expect.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 04:25 pm |
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Samurai Appliance Repair Man Fermented Grand Master of Appliantology
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How's floor stability during spin? If the floor gives and the washer starts shaking during spin, it'll ramp down the spin speed.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 05:09 pm |
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gergrff Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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The machine is on the second floor, but it does a good job whenever it spins (even at the 1000RPM). Smooth operation on the flooring every time. Thanks for this idea, because I have seen front loaders at friends houses that shake rattle and roll every time. GG
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| Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 05:10 pm |
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Samurai Appliance Repair Man Fermented Grand Master of Appliantology
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Have you gone into service mode and activated spin mode? Any difference?
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| Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 10:41 pm |
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gergrff Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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Very good idea, except the Bosch manual that Reg sent me is not for this machine. It is for two other model numbers, and each one of them requires you to go through different steps to go to service mode and for retreiving trouble codes?
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| Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 12:04 am |
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Samurai Appliance Repair Man Fermented Grand Master of Appliantology
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Samurai Appliance Repair Man wrote:The manuals Reg sent you are the ones that even Bosch calls out for that model. Guess the differences are not significant enough to merit a whole new, expensive-to-produce manual. The control panel on the 22 looks like the same panel as the 32. Use the procedure for the 32 starting on page 63 of the manual.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 02:29 am |
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denrayr Sublime Master of Appliantology
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many of the Bosch machines will store trouble codes in memory so you can retrieve them in service mode.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 05:19 am |
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gergrff Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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Thanks for the info - will try the procedure starting on page 63 of the manual and see what happens? Many thanks for the responses, GG
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| Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 04:40 am |
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gergrff Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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I checked the Bosch unit today and the trouble codes are E:20 (spinning aborted due to unbalanced load) d:08 (motor speed sensor failed) d:10 (power limiter switch off) Please note that when I am scrolling through the trouble codes it jumps from E:24 to d:08, then it skips d:09, then skips d:11 through d:18. I ran the machine through all the tests, but the one that did not turn out as manual stated was the "P:04" test. The unit went through the test, but did not do the operations as stated in the manual. Unit did do the 50RPM and ended with the 1000RPM. Seemed as though the unit just does the operations it wants to do. Please, I would appreciate some help in interpreting the results of these tests. I do not know where the speed sensor is located, but if it is on the motor control board - I am still leaning towards this board? Many thanks for your help, GG
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| Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 05:52 am |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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gergrff wrote: ... I do not know where the speed sensor is located... a PDF search of the Service Manual for "speed sensor" shows it on the Motor on PDF page 44
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| Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 11:07 am |
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gergrff Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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Would someone that has experience with the Bosch machines take a look at the results of my fault codes and testing and give an educated opinion as to what direction I should go with parts. This would be appreciated very much. GG
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