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 Posted: Sun Jan 28th, 2007 11:45 pm
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So here's the deal.  Six months ago, I bought the above references washing machine as non-working from a moving sale for CHEAP.  After replacing the inlet valves it worked like a pro.

Today, on the third load it stopped working.  I opened the unlocked door to find a soaking wet pile of towels, and  three inches of water in the bottom.  After scooping out the water, and opening the filter door to drain the rest, I started a test run with an empty tub.

(Edit- while draining the water through the filter door, I checked the lint filter itself - spotless - I should be proud, but the victory is bittersweet).

The washer will go through the two little mini-spins, then the drain pump will kick on, and then the washer will fill.  This is all normal.  Then, however, the door will unlock and the start-button will start blinking, as though it is ready for the next load.  The progress LCD remains on Wash.

(Edit-  I'm unsure if the door is unlocked, and I'm unwilling to experience a tidal-wave of wash water by checking to see.  I did hear a little click right at the end, so it's just a guess that the door unlocked.)

If I press the Start button again, the macine locks the door, goes through its little mini-spins, agitates three to four times, then unlocks the door and the Start button start blinking.  The progress LCD remains on Wash.

I checked the pressure switch by checking for continuity as I blew into the valve - ok for both sets of terminals.  As of this moment with the machine stopped the switch is open (infinity).  Should it be closed with water in the tub?

I wouldn't think anything is wrong with the drain pump, as it does kick on at the beginning of the cycle and water is drained out.  Besides, at the point the cycle stops it shouldn't be draining anyway.  I checked for kinks in the pressure hose, at least as far as I could check without taking anything apart. 

The test program doesn't work, but it never did - at least not since I got it. 

First and foremost, is there any way to drain the sucker without opening up the filter door and spilling everything out onto the floor?  I don't want to attempt to move it or tip it with that much water in there.

Secondly, what in the world is making it quit when the cycle is just getting started?

Any help or pointers would be great - just preferable don't tell me I need to change out the control board - then I'll lose my wonderful $$ savings that I bragged to everyone about.

Thanks in advance!


(Edit- on a sidenote, that soaking pile of towels is still spinning in the dryer - close to two and a half hours later on the More Dry setting.  My electric company will love me this month!)

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if you are certain the pump works,remove the lower access panel and apply power directly to the pump motor to drain machine



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Thanks for the advice on how to get the beast to excrete its fluids.  From where should I get this power (ie is there a specific voltage or will the incoming power work without blowing the pump?)

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120 volts a.c.  can be obtained from nearby electrical outlet via cheater cord w/spade terminals



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Alright.  Washer is drained and one problem solved.  Now that it is empty I can also confirm that the door was unlocked.

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leave the water taps turned off and try to spin it- could be that the tube to the pressure switch has been damaged



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I'd have to say that the behavior was exactly the same as when the water was turned on.

It's a fully automatic cycle so I couldn't just try the spin, but starting at the beginning of the cycle it drained, then agitated a few times while trying to fill, then shut-off and returned to the blinking Start button, LCD on Wash, and door unlocked.

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check pressure tube for damage



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With the back access panel off I was unable to find any kinks, visible tears, points of disconnection, etc.

With the hose removed from the pressure sensor, there is no noticable air leaks when I blow into that end.

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From where the little tube connects to the larger tube inside, if I pull it off and blow into the plastic connector, I can hear the pressure switch click over.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the tub is full of water and the pressure hose is ok, shouldn't the pressure switch be closed (not infinity)?  There are a couple of plastic screws on the switch - should these be adjusted - or is there something on the where the pressure hose connects to the draining hoses that isn't functioning properly?


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replace the entire door there was a service pointer on this unit the new door has a longer plunger if it is only 6 months old it should be under warranty Part #8182997     what is happening is the door is not engaging the door latch assembly properly

 

 

 

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Service pointer.......



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Thanks for the advice.

The 'Samurai's Ichiban Law of Appliance Repair
' states "Never replace a part unless you have proof that the part is bad".  And while I'm no samurai, I am cheap.

Is there any way to test that this is the problem?  Even though I have only had the unit for 6-months, I did buy the unit used and therefore it would not be covered by warranty.  $120 bucks for a special order seems a bit steep to just poke and pray.

Is there a way to bypass or trip the door-latch sensor to see if the unit runs? 

Also, would replacing just the door latch solve the problem?  I'm looking at the door parts diagram http://www.partselect.com/Schematics/Whirlpool/LTSFJUCX.gif and wondering if part 14 would do the trick.  $39 in stock seems like a better choice provided it accomplishes the same.

Thanks for the new direction - I've almost scratched a bald spot on my head trying to figure out where the pressure switch was failing.  Now I understand the 'Favorite Brew' question and how it relates to appliance repair.

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Since this is a product problem give whirlpool a call they might give you a concession for the part where they might provide the part at no cost just a little advice try not to tell them you are not the orginal owner,they might know if the orginal owner sent in the product regerstion card in 1-800-253-1301 is the customer assistance line also say you not quite sure of the purchase date good luck

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I would point out that this is a case where Whirlpool put it's name on something they did not build. I believe these are made in Italy, but I don't know the name of the manufacturer.

They are proving to be a real pain.

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nickfixit wrote: I would point out that this is a case where Whirlpool put it's name on something they did not build. I believe these are made in Italy, but I don't know the name of the manufacturer.

They are proving to be a real pain.

Nick 

Nick You are correct im a servicer only and a dealer that i provide service has sold only 4 of these units and ive been to all four of them and of cource they all are crammed in a unbeliveable small place

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Interesting, a tech is working on one of these wonderful washers in a tech only forum....here is his reply to the same problem on the same unit, thought might be worth posting in here.

"Followup: i tried the door and that was not the problem....turned out to be a broken push-to-start switch. I thought it was a momentary switch, but if you held it in the unit would run. The new switch was a click-click positive on/off type, pretty flimsy looking. It's hard to figure why one of these would fail in mid-cycle."



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Pegi i also had than same problem it would run if you held the switch in but as soon as you let go it would quite fortunely since i had the unit out i checked the switch it snapped apart by the clip i just snapped it back in  and took care of the problem i also had to order the control board on this unit 2 months before i got the control board

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It was a no-go with Whirlpool support.  They said they would recommend a tech, but if I couldn't come up with my original receipt for the tech's inspection I would be charged full price for the service call.  And this after I told them that I had just moved and couldn't find the box containing my receipt.

I tried pleading my case that it was a known issue with the product - even gave them the service pointer info - but they still said too bad.  I even said I don't need a tech, just send the part -- they pretty much told me no freakin' way.  Ahh well - you live and learn.

So I still would like to know...
-Is there a way to test to see if the pressure-switch is clicking over while the machine is running?
-Is there a way to test to see if it is the door?
-Would replacing just the latch accomplish the same as replacing the whole door?

And
-Why would the washer even fill to above the door level if it wasn't getting confirmation that the door was latched?
-If it was the Start button, why would it always quit at the same point?

Thanks guys!  Just don't want to replace that entire door if I can avoid it!

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So I'm guessing by the silence I need to just bust out the ol' wallet from behind its safety glass and buy the new door assembly.  Durn.

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